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		<title>By: Michael S</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jun 2010 10:44:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stuart,

You are making generalisations. You keep warning about demons and fake spiritual gifts. Could you please tell of your personal experience/s of dealing with the demons behind the &#039;spiritistic&#039; phenomena? Could you please provide first hand accounts of personally seeing deceived people set free from demonic oppression or possession? I sort of know where you&#039;re coming from, having been part of  &#039;Reformed&#039; communities....having read  WCF and the Shorter and Larger Catechisms. Perhaps you should dialogue with Calvinistic Pastors (working in developing countries) with more experience in these matters. By the way, have you been influenced by reading Warfield&#039;s &quot;Counterfeit Miracles&quot; or John Macarthur&#039;s &quot;Charismatic Chaos&quot;? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stuart,</p>
<p>You are making generalisations. You keep warning about demons and fake spiritual gifts. Could you please tell of your personal experience/s of dealing with the demons behind the &#8217;spiritistic&#8217; phenomena? Could you please provide first hand accounts of personally seeing deceived people set free from demonic oppression or possession? I sort of know where you&#8217;re coming from, having been part of  &#8217;Reformed&#8217; communities&#8230;.having read  WCF and the Shorter and Larger Catechisms. Perhaps you should dialogue with Calvinistic Pastors (working in developing countries) with more experience in these matters. By the way, have you been influenced by reading Warfield&#8217;s &#8220;Counterfeit Miracles&#8221; or John Macarthur&#8217;s &#8220;Charismatic Chaos&#8221;? </p>
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		<title>By: Stuart</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stuart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 06:24:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello!


 Everything happens according to the wil of God. The New Age Movement is the same as the Pentecostal Movement. They are both being used according to God&#039;s will. God raises them to use them for his own mysterious will, but he will also judge and destroy them because of their disobediece. The prophesey they reveal is demonic. A true phrophet only warns of sin. Their prophesey is sweet lies to their ears.

Cheers
Stuart</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello!</p>
<p> Everything happens according to the wil of God. The New Age Movement is the same as the Pentecostal Movement. They are both being used according to God&#8217;s will. God raises them to use them for his own mysterious will, but he will also judge and destroy them because of their disobediece. The prophesey they reveal is demonic. A true phrophet only warns of sin. Their prophesey is sweet lies to their ears.</p>
<p>Cheers<br />
Stuart</p>
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		<title>By: Jen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 02:36:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, I am a Christian currently involved in ministry to the New Age Community. I have been using the concepts from Charles Kraft&#039;s book &quot;Christianity in Culture&quot; 2005. From doing a web search on Charles Kraft I came across your site. Reading your material has raised some big questions for me. Should I now consider the entire New Age Community as a strong hold and work of Satan as you imply on your answers to questions regarding Alternative methods of healing in your FAQ section of this site. Most of the people I have met during my ministry would be into the &quot;Occult&quot; as you describe it. Is this New Age culture or subculture a &quot;No Go&quot; area? Is it not the same as any other culture, and is not God present and working there? I fail to see how I can be prejudiced here against the community I work in, as it is no different to India (where I have also been). Jen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, I am a Christian currently involved in ministry to the New Age Community. I have been using the concepts from Charles Kraft&#8217;s book &#8220;Christianity in Culture&#8221; 2005. From doing a web search on Charles Kraft I came across your site. Reading your material has raised some big questions for me. Should I now consider the entire New Age Community as a strong hold and work of Satan as you imply on your answers to questions regarding Alternative methods of healing in your FAQ section of this site. Most of the people I have met during my ministry would be into the &#8220;Occult&#8221; as you describe it. Is this New Age culture or subculture a &#8220;No Go&#8221; area? Is it not the same as any other culture, and is not God present and working there? I fail to see how I can be prejudiced here against the community I work in, as it is no different to India (where I have also been). Jen.</p>
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		<title>By: Stuart</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stuart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 13:18:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Cam,

Your full of Holy Spirit silly comments.

Is God your personal Lord Buddy Buddy. Your God is different to mine.

I worship Jesus Christ.

You can have your Holy Spirit Fantasy.

Cheers
Stuart</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Cam,</p>
<p>Your full of Holy Spirit silly comments.</p>
<p>Is God your personal Lord Buddy Buddy. Your God is different to mine.</p>
<p>I worship Jesus Christ.</p>
<p>You can have your Holy Spirit Fantasy.</p>
<p>Cheers<br />
Stuart</p>
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		<title>By: cam</title>
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		<dc:creator>cam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 09:16:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>does not the rivers of life flow out of your belly oh yeah,jump in the river im sure it is written that jesus asked can a spring bring fourth anything other than spring water?meaning whats inside of you is what will come out of you.if you have a demon inside of you than only acts of evil will come out of you but if it is the holyspirit than you will be transformed to be more like jesus amen.a true test is simple if you cant declare(speak)that jesus is your personal lord n saviour than its not the lords spirit but a demonic power inside of you(demons tremble at the sound of his name)only by the holy ghost can u say jesus is lord and your personal lord..jesus said that he will pour new wine(his spirit) into old wineskins(our sinfull bodies) honestly it is your free will to ask to receive the baptism of the holyghost and if you choose to than ask,jesus said how much more will GOD pour his spirit out onto those that ask(faith required)he also told his deciples not to go anywhere and wait until they received power from on high yes the holyghost is GODs power(supernatural)but yet also a person(not in the form of a human being) i love the holyghost as he equips and empowers me to love the lord thy GOD.(AGAIN I SAY U CANT HAVE A DEMON IN YOU AND EXALT THE NAME OF THE LORD.so when praying in tongues ask that/any person to worship his name at the same time and have them confess that christ is their personal lord(example pray in tongues than say thankyou jesus for being my personal lord and saviour go straight back into praying in tongues)take note the power of darkness knows jesus is lord and will say so, so therefore confession must be that christ the lord is YOUR PERSONAL LORD AND SAVIOUR.amen</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>does not the rivers of life flow out of your belly oh yeah,jump in the river im sure it is written that jesus asked can a spring bring fourth anything other than spring water?meaning whats inside of you is what will come out of you.if you have a demon inside of you than only acts of evil will come out of you but if it is the holyspirit than you will be transformed to be more like jesus amen.a true test is simple if you cant declare(speak)that jesus is your personal lord n saviour than its not the lords spirit but a demonic power inside of you(demons tremble at the sound of his name)only by the holy ghost can u say jesus is lord and your personal lord..jesus said that he will pour new wine(his spirit) into old wineskins(our sinfull bodies) honestly it is your free will to ask to receive the baptism of the holyghost and if you choose to than ask,jesus said how much more will GOD pour his spirit out onto those that ask(faith required)he also told his deciples not to go anywhere and wait until they received power from on high yes the holyghost is GODs power(supernatural)but yet also a person(not in the form of a human being) i love the holyghost as he equips and empowers me to love the lord thy GOD.(AGAIN I SAY U CANT HAVE A DEMON IN YOU AND EXALT THE NAME OF THE LORD.so when praying in tongues ask that/any person to worship his name at the same time and have them confess that christ is their personal lord(example pray in tongues than say thankyou jesus for being my personal lord and saviour go straight back into praying in tongues)take note the power of darkness knows jesus is lord and will say so, so therefore confession must be that christ the lord is YOUR PERSONAL LORD AND SAVIOUR.amen</p>
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		<title>By: Stuart</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stuart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 11:50:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carrie,

What if you can find scripture that says the tongues and prophesy are for today?

The whole pentecostal movement is fake. They worship a false Holy Spirit which is not of our God and Jesus Christ. 

But I am not here to write pages and pages to convince you of this. 

Let Mal do this: above.

If God wants to show you the truth regarding this he will do this through secondary means: other people and circumstance. 

I am here to get you thinking.

This whole Prayer Ministries is a demonic sham. For anyone reading this post, be wise and go to a Presbyterian church and hopefully one with a minister who uses expository preaching. 

Carrie, read the Westminster confession of Faith. 

Time is running out for all of us. We will all soon meet Jesus for judgement. The Old Testament is full of false prophets and Prayer Ministries is just another chapter of this in human history.

But what I write is the truth. 

Cheers
Stuart</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carrie,</p>
<p>What if you can find scripture that says the tongues and prophesy are for today?</p>
<p>The whole pentecostal movement is fake. They worship a false Holy Spirit which is not of our God and Jesus Christ. </p>
<p>But I am not here to write pages and pages to convince you of this. </p>
<p>Let Mal do this: above.</p>
<p>If God wants to show you the truth regarding this he will do this through secondary means: other people and circumstance. </p>
<p>I am here to get you thinking.</p>
<p>This whole Prayer Ministries is a demonic sham. For anyone reading this post, be wise and go to a Presbyterian church and hopefully one with a minister who uses expository preaching. </p>
<p>Carrie, read the Westminster confession of Faith. </p>
<p>Time is running out for all of us. We will all soon meet Jesus for judgement. The Old Testament is full of false prophets and Prayer Ministries is just another chapter of this in human history.</p>
<p>But what I write is the truth. </p>
<p>Cheers<br />
Stuart</p>
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		<title>By: Carrie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carrie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 01:56:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stuart... 
I too, along with Andy, would just like some verses backing up your claim that the spiritual gifts ended after the death of the disciples.  And I hope I didnt indicate that I wouldn&#039;t believe you if you spoke truth from the word of God to me, because I am always open to hearing truth.
However, I do not take the teachings of Calvin to be authoritative.  So, if you have scripture to back what you say up, please tell me, because if it is given in context and is truth, it will only help me and further my walk with the Lord.
Thanks!
-Carrie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stuart&#8230;<br />
I too, along with Andy, would just like some verses backing up your claim that the spiritual gifts ended after the death of the disciples.  And I hope I didnt indicate that I wouldn&#8217;t believe you if you spoke truth from the word of God to me, because I am always open to hearing truth.<br />
However, I do not take the teachings of Calvin to be authoritative.  So, if you have scripture to back what you say up, please tell me, because if it is given in context and is truth, it will only help me and further my walk with the Lord.<br />
Thanks!<br />
-Carrie</p>
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		<title>By: Andy E</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy E</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 07:46:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Stuart, was wondering if you could please share any verses that back up your claim that spiritual gifts ended after the death of the disciples. Thanks mate, Andy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Stuart, was wondering if you could please share any verses that back up your claim that spiritual gifts ended after the death of the disciples. Thanks mate, Andy</p>
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		<title>By: Stuart</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stuart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 12:16:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Christian Ministry School Student. This is an interesting. You are right. But you know, when I die and stand before Jesus Christ he will say to me that my words concerning the Pentecostal movement are totally correct.

Cheers
Stuart</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Christian Ministry School Student. This is an interesting. You are right. But you know, when I die and stand before Jesus Christ he will say to me that my words concerning the Pentecostal movement are totally correct.</p>
<p>Cheers<br />
Stuart</p>
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		<title>By: Stuart</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stuart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 12:11:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, Stuart here.

Hey Carrie, if you want answers read the Westminster Confession of Faith.
I could write pages to validate what I say, but what for. I mean would you ever agree with me?

Cheers
Stuart</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Stuart here.</p>
<p>Hey Carrie, if you want answers read the Westminster Confession of Faith.<br />
I could write pages to validate what I say, but what for. I mean would you ever agree with me?</p>
<p>Cheers<br />
Stuart</p>
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